Controversy Surrounds U19 Boys Singles Default
May 25th, 2006 by conradThe big talk of the tournament fell off the Brody Hilland issue and now roots from the U19 boys singles quarterfinals. In particular, the defaulting of David Snider; the no.1 seed. David Snider was scheduled to play unseeded Quebec player Phillipe Gaumond. David was expected to win this match, however, he woke up with an extremely disturbing ‘kink’ in his neck. It was to the point where he was not able to pivot his head. As a result, 20 minutes before his match was scheduled, David declared that he would default his singles match. Upon defaulting, the local physio therapist worked on his neck and brought back to normal working condition. Dave then proceeded to tell the referee that he was able to play. The referee would allow him play so long as his Phillipe would allow it. Sure enough, Phillipe, who was already looking forward to his Semi-Final debut, told Dave that he did not want to play their quarterfinal match. So there you have it…heavy favourite Dave Snider is out of the tournament due to an arguably avoidable default. The big talk, however, stirs around Phillipe Gaumond who was viewed by some players and officials as dishonourable and cowardly. What do you think? What would you have done if you were in Phillipe’s shoes? Do you think he is a dishonourable coward? Please feel free to post your thoughts in our forum!
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May 25th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
I would have played it. Simple as that.
I think Phillipe needs to grow a pair.
May 26th, 2006 at 10:42 am
I could see if there was a million dollars on the line but as we know, thats not the case. Phillipe must want to put this on his resume. He should probably put “wuss” in brackets right after it just to be honest. Hey do what you gotta do, rock on brother.
May 26th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Well, that is a bad situation,but the blame should not go to the quebec player. Dave or his coach should have tried to get therapy(based on the reported facts) before the match rather than after he had announced his intention to default.
I would have loved to see Dave win this year because he is in my mind the best Junior in the tournament, but when you leave your own fate up to someone else, you have to expect certain consequences.
That having been said, I would have played.
May 28th, 2006 at 12:07 am
What a Wuss
May 30th, 2006 at 8:50 am
you can say whatever you want, i know that i did the right decision. i talked to my coach, to my friends, to some referees, to other coaches and no one told me to play it. I did not feel good to play this game. I don’t care about your comments, say it if you want it won’t hurt me and it won’t change nothing. All those players who say that i am coward and dishonourable, well that is not, Those who know me know that i am fair and a good person. Even Dave’s coach came back to see me before my final and told me I did the right decision. Thank you for this.
imagine this, if i would have played and won, everybody would have said: pfff he beat and injured player. if i would have played and lost, they would have said: david beat him being injured, he sucks. and in this case i am a coward. 3 different cases but all bad for me.
i am not trying to convince everyone, i am just trying to let you know that this is not my mistake but david’s who sits for an hour before hour match and walked to the table saying, i am injured i can’T play. sorry david.
June 7th, 2006 at 10:32 am
buddy you are a big pansy u should of played the game man u a pussy
June 7th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
hey, i think you shud’ve played him gave him a chance you might have won you never know anything could happen. but not playing made you seem like a coward and dishonourable.
June 9th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
Phillippe, you should never have been put in this position. The tournament referee should have made the decision as to whether to have the match played or not. Your coach and your parents are in a difficult situation as well. They want you to go as far as possible in the tournament so their judgement is not objective. To say that Dave and his coaches make a big mistake is an understatement. You can justify your decision by this fact if you chose. Anyone who criticises your decision probably has not been in that situation and who is to say what they would have done. However the best example of good sportsmanship that I have seen was at the first World Badminton Championships held in 1977 in Malmo Sweden. The number one seed in the mens singles was Flemming Delfs from Denmark. In the first round he went three games with Ray Stevens the second best player in England. Between the second and third game Flemming Delfs asked the umpire if he could leave the court to get a clean shirt from the locker room. He was allowed to do this. However the locker rooms were far from the courts and Delfs got lost on the way back. He took too long and the umpire defaulted him. Ray Stevens told the umpire that this was not fair, because he was preventing him from having a chance to beat the world’s number one player. It was only after Ray Stevens complained enough that the tournament referee decided that he would let the match continue. Flemming Delfs defeated Stevens and went on to win the world championships. Everyone remembers what Ray Stevens did even though he did not win. This is an example of good sportsmanship.
July 4th, 2006 at 7:07 pm
if someones needs to grow a pair is chriss lee. if u can call gaumond a pussy by defaulting or wtv u should have played u 19 and actually try to win the nat championship unles of playin u 23 when u have the chance of winning it then take it maybe ur the pussy of loosin agaisnt someone like dave or whomever……
July 6th, 2006 at 11:31 pm
just so people know, this is just a open discussion board
it might not be the real chris lee for all we know, as he shows repsects to all players i know. people come up in here and can have any names such as David Snider, and Phillipe Gaumond, Peter Gade, etc.
having said that, people can come up in here whenever they want using other people’s names so they can get a bad reputation of other people’s names.
July 6th, 2006 at 11:53 pm
I have met Chris Lee myself and he personally would not say something like that to anyone. To the “Chris Lee” wannabes, you need to get a life. How low can you get to build up your self-esteem?
This IS a forum with open responses after all. I find that this ‘open comment-based disucssion’ is one of the biggest negative aspects of this site as practically ANYONE can come up here posting up comments whenever and whatever they want.
July 8th, 2006 at 10:50 am
Haha he needs to man up
July 9th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
Here’s the thing…
I am 100% behind Dave’s badminton and we (manitoba) were very disappointed when he was no longer in the tournament, but what happened does not make Philippe a coward or dishonorable. We can all talk about sportsmanship until the cows come home, but that was not the real issue in this case even though I’m sure many will argue in reverse. Philippe made the absolute right decision for himself and I curse that the referees even put it on his shoulders in the first place; we all know if RULES WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED ACCORDINGLY, he NEVER would have been given that choice and everyone would think differently of Philippe - as a guy who just got lucky in the draw. However, it went the wrong way and I know many of you believe that because he was given a circumstance he could have used it to his benefit of being known as a ‘nice guy’ or ‘honorable’. Sure. If he would have played David, he most likely wouldn’t have gone on but that isn’t the point of him defaulting. Many of you do not understand that he was not afraid to play David - he had nothing to lose being the underdog. But think about it - All match prepartion was lost in the 30 minutes he believed his match was very over. Any elite player or coach should know how incredibly important match preparation is. Not to mention It was a matter of principle to force that rules should be followed and referees and players mistakes should not be excused (especially when they are so fiercely enforced over white athletic capris and muscle shirts). I’m sure that because of what happened, David will think twice before defualting before he absolutely has to.
Still, I know some of us would have played given the decision but do know that the latter of us wouldn’t be wrong in sayinig no.
So in conclusion and in the manner of staying loyal to my province (and no offense to Philippe - he still made it to the final on his own accord), we all know David would have won regardless; he is a hugely talented and hard-working player and his drive to succeed is one we all haven’t seen in many years. That being said, hopefully David’s goals stretch far beyond nationals in which this can be used as a learning experience and just a stepping stone to much bigger things.
February 26th, 2008 at 11:44 am
I think that if phiippe said yes, and snider palyed…and even tho snider said he is alright..he could of injured inself even more..and screwed his career over. So i don’t think that philippe make a wrong choice at all. everything happens for a reason